Ahmad Fakhri and Victor Ong, the authors of "The Diamond in Your Speech" (2022) and "The Pearls of Your Speech" (2025) had travelled to Mongolia with the intention of meeting up with Dr Ganchimeg Zagdaa (right). They wanted to interview her as part of their research for an upcoming third book (tentatively titled "The Rubycon in Your Speaking Journey).
FYI, this power woman is the President of Toastmasters Mongolia National Organization, World Speech Day Ambassador of Mongolia and Founder of the Academy of English in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia.
In case you're wondering, these are the criteria the two writers are looking for insofar as identifying the credible public speakers whom they wish to feature in the said book:
1. Extensive Experience ‒ Possesses 15–20+ years of consistent experience in public speaking across diverse platforms (corporate, community, international), demonstrating both versatility and longevity.
2. Thought Leadership ‒ Recognised as an author, trainer, mentor, and coach with published works, structured training programs, and a proven track record in developing other speakers.
3. Community Impact ‒ Has established or led impactful public speaking initiatives (e.g., Toastmasters and World Speech Day), or projects/campaigns that have nurtured a speaking culture within local communities.
4. Reputation for Integrity ‒ Widely respected within the public speaking and training ecosystem as a genuine, ethical, and approachable go-to person, known for uplifting others without ego.
5. Culture of Contribution ‒ Actively gives back through pro bono mentoring, public sharing, or educational outreach, reflecting a deep commitment to the lifelong learning of others.
6. Non-Commercial Legacy ‒ Has earned significant recognition, awards, or titles, yet remains purpose-driven, valuing influence and impact over profit or fame.
7. Consistent Growth & Relevance ‒ Continuously refines their craft by staying current with speaking trends, technologies (like virtual/hybrid speaking), and evolving audience needs.
And that opportunity came on October 15 when the Malaysian duo were at the Jolly Campus in Erdene, about 88km from Ulaanbaatar.
She already knew their questions. And her responses, sure and steady came fast and furious. As they listened and made notes, they knew she fits the bill.
She's No. 2 on their list after Singapore's Dr Ernest Chen. (Note: His interview was on October 06).
In fact, both these public speakers have clearly met all seven of the stated criteria. They are truly public speaking luminaries in every sense of the word.
After 3 hours, Ahmad and Victor got to know Ganchimeg Zagdaa. And you bet, they are eager to tell her story.